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From: Konrad Kosmowski <konrad[]kosmosik.net>
Subject: Re: Program do HTML/CSS
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:32:14 +0200

** K. Lipczyk wrote:

> Czyli jesli uzywam starej techniki grafika+tabelka :) + css dla opisania
> pewnego stylu strony to to juz nie jest przestarzale?

O ile jest to poprawnym kodem itp. to nie ma znaczenia czy jest to
przestarzałe. szkopuł w tym, że w dobie dynamicznie generowanego HTML itp. (bez
tego już się praktycznie nie da robić stron) o dużo trudniej jest następujący
przeplataniec treści, prezentacji, CSS oraz innych utrzymać. Poza tym generuje to
większy ruch, strona się wolniej ładuje itp.

Ja bym tego nie rozpatrywał w kategoriach przestarzałe, niemodne itp. ale w
kategoriach praktycznych, o multum łatwiej jest utrzymać prosty, w miarę
czyściutki kod HTML oraz do tego prezentację w CSS niż to wszystko razem
wymieszać.

> Ma ktos moze jakis następujący szybki, praktyczny, dajacy spojrzenie na calosc jesli
> chodzi o tworzenie strony z wykorzystaniem css oraz ?

Rzuć okiem na to:
http://code.google.com/p/blueprintcss/

naturalnie nie jest to ideał (bo) ale robi się w tym layout dość podobnie jak
na tabelce, składnia jest rzecz jasna inna. dobre kod żeby zacząć (się uczyć).

Zobacz na przykłady, na pliki CSS, pobaw się, może zauważysz, że w ten sposób
jest o multum łatwiej. :)


From: "Andrzej W." <awa_wp[]na_wp_oczywiscie.pl>
Subject: Re: Roboty i ciasteczka
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:31:11 +0100

red pisze:
> Andrzej W. pisze:
>
> To jest podejście od dupy strony. Pomijając roboty to powinny być
> subdomeny, bo będę chciał podać linka koledze do konkretniej podstrony,
> a jemu wyskoczy z jakiegoś przyczyny np. po chińsku.

Tak to sobie, kurcze, wymyśliłem nie wiem nawet czemu.

A koledze wyskoczy strona polska z linkiem "english version" w widcznym
miejscu, albowiem jest szansa, że sobie poradzi.

Masz rację dla większej przejrzystości serwisu chyba zrobię tak jak to
było na początku:
www.cos.pl/ - wersja polska
www.cos.pl/en/ - wersja angielska


From: Tony <paulpub2kkk[]gmail.com.zamiastkkkdajk>
Subject: Re: PageRank
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:23:11 +0200

Dnia Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:49:09 +0200, inst4nce napisał(a):

> Witam
>
> Czy są jakieś strony na republika.pl, które mają PR>0 ? Chodzi mi o strony
> rodzaju http://nazwajakiejsstrony.republika.pl. Szukałem oraz wszystkie miały
> PR=0. Sama republika.pl ma PR=5.
> Czy ktoś zna taką stronę?

A czy te strony są w jakiś sposób lepsze od takich z PR=0?

Pozdrawiam
Tony

From: vememife[]bigfoot.com
Subject: M,I.5,Persecu tion F our Years of MI 5 Persec ution Po sts on Intern et Newsgroup s
Date: 26 Dec 2007 09:08:55 GMT


Four Years of "MI5. Persecution" Posts on Internet Newsgroups

For approximately the. first three years of the MI5 persecution, from June
1990 until late 1992, i kept as quiet. as possible, in the hope that by not
reacting, MI5s interest. in me would decrease and they would simply go away
of their own accord. This is the sort. of behaviour some people employ
against bullies; if. the bullies arent getting a reaction, then they might
simply go away and. victimize someone else.

Unfortunately,. this tactic didnt work. The quieter i became, the more
shrill and. hysterical the noise from the Security Service operatives. For
about two years oraz didnt watch TV news at all. Yet this only. heightened
their obsessed fixation; they continued to follow me wherever oraz went,. they
continued to induce. harassment at work by managers and fellow workers, and
they continued to encourage. me to commit suicide. They seemed to regard my
refusal. to react as a crime which they would have to "put right" by ever
more extreme. forms of abuse.

Finally, in 1995,. oraz changed tactics radically. Since late 1994 oraz had had
accounts with. internet providers in Ontario, Canada. oraz discovered the
cornucopia. of internet newsgroups, on every topic from consumer
electronics, to politics and. legal topics, and i discovered online
services such as Compuserve and AOL. In May 1995, i made the. first posting
to the conspiracy newsgroup, on the subject of. "BBCs Hidden Shame".

BBC's. Hidden Shame

The internet newsgroup discussion, which has now reached its. fourth
anniversary, started with. an article in alt.conspiracy, which i reproduce
here.

Date: Thu May 4 18:27:24. 1995
Newsgroups:. alt.conspiracy
Subject: BBC's. Hidden Shame

Remember the two-way. televisions in George Orwell's 1984? The ones which watched you
back? Which you could never get rid of, only the sound could. be turned down?

Well the country which brought Orwell into the world. has made his nightmare follow into
the world after him. Since 1990. the British have been waging war against one of their
own citizens using surveillance to invade privacy and a campaign of abuse in. the
transmitted media in their. efforts to humiliate their "victim".

And the most remarkable thing about it is that what they do is not even illegal -. the
UK has no laws to protect the privacy of. its citizens, nor does it proscribe harassment
or abuse except in the case of. racial abuse.

A lot of people in England know this to. be going on, yet so far they have maintained
perfect "omerta"; not a. sound, not a squeak has escaped into the English press, and for
all the covert harassment absolutely nothing has come out into. the public domain.

Have the British gone mad?. oraz think we should be told

At this point, oraz did not. name MI5 as my persecutors. oraz was still unsure
that they were the ones. responsible for the "psychological terrorism". In
followup posts however i did name them; and the persecutors. have never
denied the claim; so oraz think my guess is valid. (The. Security Service
Tribunal in 1997 have said "no determination in. your favour was made", but
it is a well established fact that MI5 lies. routinely to the Tribunal
which has never found in favour of a plaintiff, so no conclusions. can be
drawn. from this.)

This first post was. made to alt.conspiracy, but further posts were made to
the UK-local newsgroups, in. particular uk.misc but also uk.legal and
uk.politics (which is now called uk.politics.misc). Some time. ago i tried
to take. the battle to the Compuserve forums, UKPOLITICS (which is now
called UKCURRENT - current affairs), but my articles. were censored by the
forum operators. Such censorship is impossible on. the internet newsgroups.

Police. Refuse to Act

oraz have complained several times. to the Metropolitan Police, who have each
time refused. to help.

From:. Green
Newsgroups:. uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: Why Aren't the. British Police Doing Their
Job?
Reply-To:. Green@guidion.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun Apr. 7 21:13:30 1996

In article.
. bu765@torfree.net "Mike Corley" writes:

>Last Easter (1995) i went into the local. police station in London and spoke to
>an officer about the harassment. against me. But i couldn't provide tangible
>evidence; what people said, in many cases years ago, is. beyond proof, and
>without something to support my statements I. cannot expect a police officer to
>take the complaint. seriously.

This in itself dos not suggest that the police have it in for. you. The old bill
operates on extremely tight spending limits. forced on them by that pillock Michael
Howard,. and without evidence, they often have higher priorities than chasing something
that cannot go to. court.

I. doubt that the police are actually being leant on, but they probably realise that if
they looked into this, they would be leant on hard. The met always stays. away from
anything that looks like it has Defence,. Security or secret service interest already,
because they realise that they are below these government agencies in the. general
pecking. order.

If oraz walked into my local nick and complained that MI5 were snooping on. me, they would
show me the door without even looking at my. evidence, because that bored desk seargant
with only five years to go before he retires doesn't want to start. fucking about with
somebody who has incurred the wrath of Stella Rimington. He would rather deal with. the
lost dogs and driving licence producers, eat his cheese and pickle. sandwiches and piss
off home at. the end of his shift than have some high ranking spook having a go at his
boss and getting him a. bollocking.

In. short, you have earned much sympathy but little surprise. Just remember that saying
about. the enemy of your enemies.

Most recently, oraz wrote in March 1999. to Charing Cross Police Station
CID. They did not acknowledge or reply. to my letter. When oraz phoned them
up, the detective Id written to treated me to a sadly. not unusual display
of police bigotry, with an uneducated. rant about "your paranoid rubbish".

It would be nice to think that such uneducated bigotry is. something other
than wholly typical of police behaviour,. but unfortunately that is an
illusion. that is rapidly dispelled.

Uncorruptible Jon. Snow of Channel Four News

From previous articles the reader will know. what oraz think Jon Snow has
recently been watching. me while he reads Channel Four News in the
evening. Recently i digitized a. few moments of one such broadcast, where
his face twists into a smile,. without there being anything in the news
broadcast to cause merriment.. Here is a usenet post from some time ago on
MI5s "bought and paid for" tools in the so-called "free". press.


Peter. Harding (harding@ermine.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: oraz was at speakers' corner on Sunday.. There was one chap who was bellowing
: about something or other,. oraz don't know what, but one thing he said to
: someone caught my. ear:

:. "BBC, MI5, same thing."

Can't disagree. with that sentiment.

Wasn't it documented that MI5 sometimes "bought". journalists and broadcasters?
oraz remember reading a report by some jouralist who had. been offered an extra
tax-free income by. MI5 to become their covert mouthpiece, and had refused.
..............................................................................
>. : >mouthpiece, and had refused.
>. :
> : It was. Jon Snow of Channel 4.
>
>. Was it reported in any of the papers?

It has been reported several times. The most recent was. in Private Eye,
a few months. back. As oraz recall they also wanted information from him;
journalists would be. a natural choice for members of the Security Service
and the Secret Intelligence Service for. information sources.

> It might be interesting to see what he. had to say regarding their
> attempt to. recruit him.

He was most concerned that many. others would have accepted such an
offer. However, we can probably make an educated guess. as to some of
those who accepted: Nigel West (Rupert. Allason, MP) and Chapman Pincher
would come near to the czołówka of. the list.


From: olo <olo69maupapocztafm[]nospam.com>
Subject: Re: faux columns a rozmiary w em
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:21:54 +0200

ethanak pisze:
> olo wrote:
>> [...]A może następujące
>> trzy kolumny da się uczynić jakoś inaczej? (i bynajmniej nie przy użyciu
>> teer tede)?
>>
> Na przykład (na kolanie pisane) http://www.polip.com/temp/fauxem.html
> (środkową sobie dorób). Obrazki tła akurat wzięte z czego innego z tego powodu
> następujące a nie inne...
>
> ethanak

dzięki za przykład. Muszę się chwilę zastanowić co będzie najlepszym
wyjściem, bo Twój przykład pokazał mi ciekawą drogę kombinowania :)
(background-position + kontener w kontenerze). Jak przetestuję oraz
wszystko będzie grało to wkleję kod dla potomnych.


inne


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